CO129-274 - Public Offices & Others - 1896 — Page 343

CO129 Colonial Office Hong Kong Records 理藩院香港檔案 All AI Reviewed

He has done with the matter of the suggested draft ordinance & shall no doubt hear from him in due course.

The contention is that nothing can be done which will not handicap British trade, for (i) if British ships alone are regulated, they must be handicapped; (ii) as has been proposed, all nationalities accept certain rules, British trade will suffer again because the rules will not be enforced in the case of other ships.

I think there should be as little interference as possible, but it seems to me that there are two distinct issues. A wide distinction exists between the coasting voyages from treaty port to treaty port, and the voyage from Chefoo to Vladivostock, which is some 1200 miles of stormy sea, where British ships do not call in at Port Arthur.

The case of this longer voyage is ignored in the present letter and its Enclosure, and I should like to ask Mr. Gundry's attention to it, pointing out that there seems to have been no doubt that there has been dangerous & insanitary overcrowding on this voyage in past years. I should like also to find out whether there is still much emigration from Chefoo to Vladivostock.

The work on the Trans-Siberian railway may be over by March 1895. Reporting on this, the Consul says, "Owing to the falling off in emigration to Vladivostock, I have no reason to complain of the steamers running thither carrying too many coolie passengers." I should like to find out too whether the China Association would object to the simple rules proposed by the Consul at Canton as a choice of evils, as marked in the enclosure to GR1178/1922/32(III).

Is there any objection to my...

However, to follow the exact format required, here is the revised output in HTML:

He has done with the matter of the suggested draft ordinance & shall no doubt hear from him in due course.

The contention is that nothing can be done which will not handicap British trade, for (i) if British ships alone are regulated, they must be handicapped; (ii) as has been proposed, all nationalities accept certain rules, British trade will suffer again because the rules will not be enforced in the case of other ships.

I think there should be as little interference as possible, but it seems to me that there are two distinct issues. A wide distinction exists between the coasting voyages from treaty port to treaty port, and the voyage from Chefoo to Vladivostock, which is some 1200 miles of stormy sea, where British ships do not call in at Port Arthur.

The case of this longer voyage is ignored in the present letter and its Enclosure, and I should like to ask Mr. Gundry's attention to it, pointing out that there seems to have been no doubt that there has been dangerous & insanitary overcrowding on this voyage in past years. I should like also to find out whether there is still much emigration from Chefoo to Vladivostock.

The work on the Trans-Siberian railway may be over by March 1895. Reporting on this, the Consul says, "Owing to the falling off in emigration to Vladivostock, I have no reason to complain of the steamers running thither carrying too many coolie passengers." I should like to find out too whether the China Association would object to the simple rules proposed by the Consul at Canton as a choice of evils, as marked in the enclosure to GR1178/1922/32(III).

Is there any objection to my...

Edit History

2026-05-28 10:42:03 · NVIDIA / meta/llama-4-maverick-17b-128e-instruct
Live
View comparison
AI Proofread
He has done with the matter of the suggested draft ordinance & shall no doubt hear from him in due course. The contention is that nothing can be done which will not handicap British trade, for (i) if British ships alone are regulated, they must be handicapped; (ii) as has been proposed, all nationalities accept certain rules, British trade will suffer again because the rules will not be enforced in the case of other ships. I think there should be as little interference as possible, but it seems to me that there are two distinct issues. A wide distinction exists between the coasting voyages from treaty port to treaty port, and the voyage from Chefoo to Vladivostock, which is some 1200 miles of stormy sea, where British ships do not call in at Port Arthur. The case of this longer voyage is ignored in the present letter and its Enclosure, and I should like to ask Mr. Gundry's attention to it, pointing out that there seems to have been no doubt that there has been dangerous & insanitary overcrowding on this voyage in past years. I should like also to find out whether there is still much emigration from Chefoo to Vladivostock. The work on the Trans-Siberian railway may be over by March 1895. Reporting on this, the Consul says, "Owing to the falling off in emigration to Vladivostock, I have no reason to complain of the steamers running thither carrying too many coolie passengers." I should like to find out too whether the China Association would object to the simple rules proposed by the Consul at Canton as a choice of evils, as marked in the enclosure to GR1178/1922/32(III). Is there any objection to my... However, to follow the exact format required, here is the revised output in HTML: He has done with the matter of the suggested draft ordinance & shall no doubt hear from him in due course. The contention is that nothing can be done which will not handicap British trade, for (i) if British ships alone are regulated, they must be handicapped; (ii) as has been proposed, all nationalities accept certain rules, British trade will suffer again because the rules will not be enforced in the case of other ships. I think there should be as little interference as possible, but it seems to me that there are two distinct issues. A wide distinction exists between the coasting voyages from treaty port to treaty port, and the voyage from Chefoo to Vladivostock, which is some 1200 miles of stormy sea, where British ships do not call in at Port Arthur. The case of this longer voyage is ignored in the present letter and its Enclosure, and I should like to ask Mr. Gundry's attention to it, pointing out that there seems to have been no doubt that there has been dangerous & insanitary overcrowding on this voyage in past years. I should like also to find out whether there is still much emigration from Chefoo to Vladivostock. The work on the Trans-Siberian railway may be over by March 1895. Reporting on this, the Consul says, "Owing to the falling off in emigration to Vladivostock, I have no reason to complain of the steamers running thither carrying too many coolie passengers." I should like to find out too whether the China Association would object to the simple rules proposed by the Consul at Canton as a choice of evils, as marked in the enclosure to GR1178/1922/32(III). Is there any objection to my...
Baseline (Original)
He has done in the matter of the suggested draft rdinance & shall no doubt hear in due course. The contention is that nothing cam 're done which will not handicap British trade, · for (i) if British ships alone are regulated, they must be handicapped 12, J. as as has been proposed, all nationalities accept certain rules, British trade will accept extain in the case of itish ships alme again suffer for for will the rules be enforced. I think there should be as little. interference as possible but it seems to me that there are two distinct is A wide distinction between the coasting voyages from treaty port to treaty port, and to voyage from Chefos to Madivostock d which is some 1200 miles of stormy sea, the British ships do for Wall in at Port Arthur. not The case ships D cale is this longer voyage ignored in the present letter and its Enclosure and I should like to Consular report no. 1599 ask Mi Gundry's attention to it, printing out that there seems to have 'been no doubt that there has been dangerous & insanitary a insamitony overcrowding on this myage 338 out in past years I should like also to find Whether there is still much emigration from Chefoo to Vladivostock!. The cookes went there is work on the trans Siberian railway of the work March may be over. 1895 Reporting the consul says in the in "Owing to the falling. Huladivostok, namble real off in gerrilgrautal to "I have to reason to complain of the Steaines running thither carry by too many coolie passengues". I should litte to find out too Whether the China Association, sules would object to the simple takes proposed by the consul at Canton as a choice of evils in the enclosur to 155% as marked. Is there any objection to my
2026-05-28 10:42:03 · Baseline
View content

He has done in the matter

of the suggested draft rdinance & shall no doubt hear

in due course.

The contention is that nothing

cam 're

done which will not handicap British

trade,

·

for

(i) if British ships alone are regulated, they must be handicapped 12, J. as

as has been proposed, all nationalities accept certain rules, British trade will accept extain in the case of itish ships alme again suffer for for

will the rules be enforced. I think there should be as little.

interference

as

possible

but it seems

to me that there are two distinct is

A wide distinction between the coasting voyages from treaty port to treaty port, and to voyage from Chefos to Madivostock

d

which is some 1200 miles of stormy

sea,

the British ships do

for Wall in at Port Arthur.

not

The case

ships

D

cale is

this longer voyage ignored in the present letter and its Enclosure and I should like to

Consular

report

no. 1599

ask Mi Gundry's attention to it, printing out that there seems to have 'been no doubt that there has been dangerous & insanitary

a insamitony overcrowding

on

this

myage 338

out

in past years I should like also to find Whether there is still much emigration from Chefoo to Vladivostock!.

The cookes went there is work on the trans Siberian railway of the

work

March

may

be over.

1895

Reporting the consul says

in the

in

"Owing to the falling. Huladivostok,

namble

real

off in gerrilgrautal to "I have to reason to complain of the Steaines running thither carry by too many coolie passengues". I should litte to find out too Whether the China Association,

sules would object to the simple takes proposed by the consul at Canton as a choice of evils in the enclosur to 155% as marked.

Is there any objection to my

Comments

Approved members can add comments, bookmarks, and private notes.

No comments yet.

Private Research Note

Private notes are available after approval.